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recent events with Justwar

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recent events with Justwar

Post by Burno on Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:36 am

Polycrates,

Here is the requested screenshots of Justwars donations:

Quarry:


Forrest:


I usually don't care about players who don't donate as I don't use the mines that much anymore. I don't expect players who don't use the mines to donate, but 600 workers is quite a bit...

I have already agreed to leave your players alone in the future, which is why I'm a little confused over the threats of some sort of mass retaliation. I understand that every alliance handles these issues differently, but it seems overly expensive and unnecessary to mass retaliate over this:


I see this as an issue between me and Justwars (who I personally think is annoying). If you think this is more than that you know where to find me. Anyways, thanks for giving me the opportunity to post my thoughts on the issue before half your alliance comes after me.

-In game name: Burnomatic

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Re: recent events with Justwar

Post by Guest on Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:44 am

I had a nice 30k donation tonight to the saw mill but really its moot IMO because you've attacked me in the past without that as your reason. You stated in a PM it was because you were low on wine.That's why you attacked, because when you attacked prior you won and got plenty of what you needed. You weren't even on my island when you attacked me before, so the donations is a copout. I know I hadn't done a ton for that island yet because I had focused on the islands which were closer to leveling up first in the luxury goods and saw mill. Your town *Bad Neighbor* suggests your a aggressive player IMO, and have never accepted any kind of diplomatic solutions till you were against the wall. Had you ANY interest in diplomatically solving this, you would of messaged me about donating and I would of gladly added more even if it meant taking my focus off my other islands.

Annoying why? Because I admitted to you that very day I was close to putting my account on vacation because of medical issues and probably had more then normal wine because my health has been shakey? That's all truth, I have Spina bifida which is a birth defect, I'm pretty close to kidney failure and likely I'll never get a kidney because I'm likely not a good candidate with my other health issues. Because I gave you that information, i'm annoying? Nope I'm just honest.

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Re: recent events with Justwar

Post by Burno on Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:53 pm

Yes, I did attack you for your resources and not your donation history. I was just pointing out that you were, in fact, leeching. I think I remember attacking you in the past once before. If I recall, you said something along the lines of "hey, it's just a game" or something like that. It's hard to remember seeing as it was one time months ago...

As for diplomacy, I already told you I wasn't going to pillage you in the future. I'm sorry about your health.

This has gotten way too overblown.
Here is a summary of what happened:
1. I attacked you and took 23k wine
2. I said I would not attack you in the future
3. You and Polycrates launch a counter attack
4. I tell you that I will only leave you alone in the future under the condition that you & ION leave me alone in the future.

I have already agreed to leave Justwar/ION alone in the future. If you want to attack me again, that's fine, but ultimately the end result is going to be the same basic agreement. This is just a game, and bickering about this isn't very fun silent

(PS, your forum says that this smiley is a monkey monkey but I'm just not seein' the resemblance)

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Re: recent events with Justwar

Post by COMMANDER ADAMA on Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:57 am

Cant get my head around this to be honest ..

you attacked him because

You first claim that you dont care about the mines as you dont resourse from them often ..secondly you claim that you didnt attack because of his donation history but to get his resourses ... is it me thats just confused ?

My thinking is that you were running very low on wine and decided to take it and then argue about it afterwards as you may of had a decent arguement about his donations ..
And now our alliance has shown a retalliation we are met with a leave me alone and i will leave you alone situation

Am i the only 1 thinking this ?
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Re: recent events with Justwar

Post by Guest on Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:15 am

I would of totally donated more had it been brought up, I've donated a lot more to the other islands simply the others were a lot closer to leveling up but I could of changed focus to avoid a skirmish.

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Re: recent events with Justwar

Post by Burno on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:31 am

Adma, you're partially correct.
Sorry my explanation was confusing. I was looking for easy resources for a palace upgrade and did a sweep of the island without any spy reports, this is the reason why Justwar was initially pillaged. With pointing out Justwars donation history, I was just trying to make a point that you were trying to defend a leech. His donation history had nothing to do with the initial attack, most of the people on that island got pillaged.
I told Justwar I would leave him alone before there was any threat of retaliation. The reason I told him this was because he informed me of his medical conditions. Threats of retaliation and an attack on one of my towns occurred after I told Justwar I would leave him alone.

In short, I pillaged for profit, I offered peace, and was counterattacked (understandably) twice. I figured this would be the end of this situation, but from my understanding after talking to Polycrates, ION was planning to take this to an entirely different level. As far as diplomacy is concerned, I already stated that I would leave Justwar and ION alone in the future (I can swap a CT with Justwar if necessary). If ION wants to go to the next level and start wasting each others troops, that is another option.

You can either choose military action or diplomatic action. I'm fine with either one of those options, I just want to know which way you are planning on going with this. All this tension has me me feeling like this little guy --> bounce

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Re: recent events with Justwar

Post by polycrates on Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:26 am

I think that for now we will accept you at your word and not plan any more attacks against you. However, if you ever attack another active Ionian we will show no mercy.

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